Author Topic: Boys will be boys..  (Read 3338 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline John

  • Editor
  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 25161
Boys will be boys..
« on: March 26, 2012, 10:05:09 am »
From the Evening Argus, 11th August 1948.


HAY DAMAGE BY 7 BOYS

In an attempt to stamp out a wave of hooliganism, Hove Juvenile Court to-day fined seven boys 4s each and ordered their parents to pay £1 1s to Mr. Alfred Clement Cross for damage to hay on the Hangleton Manor Farm. Insp. Bidgood said Mr. Cross barricaded a hay barn after damage to the hay. The seven boys must have climbed through a window at the rear to play in the hay. In announcing a decision, the Chairman (Mr. Arthur Jolly) said hay was valuable in these days, and the farmers had to be safeguarded.
"You know, if you don’t read history, you’re a bloody idiot." - James Clavell

Offline John

  • Editor
  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 25161
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 08:56:26 am »
Dover Express - Friday 24 March 1939

BOYS WHO RUN WILD.

At the Dover Juvenile Court, on Wednesday, before Messrs. C. E. Beaufoy and W. L. Law and Miss Elnor, Six Dover boys, one aged 8 years, one 9 years, one 10 years, and the other 13 years, were accused of stealing sweets from various shops and breaking and entering a butcher's shop. In some cases three of the boys were concerned together and in others only two them, but the Chief Constable said that there was no doubt they had all associated together at some time. The charges alleged were breaking and entering the Co-operative Society's butcher's shop at Union Rd.; stealing pastilles from Miss Ella O.Higgs' shop, 25, Folkestone Rd.; dates from Mr. Woolliams' shop, 33, Biggin St.; four tins of sweets belonging to Mr. Wilfred Garside from an unattended car; and a tin of cough sweets and 24 bars of chocolate from Mrs. Esther Reid's shop, 30b, London Rd.

All the boys pleaded guilty. The father of one of the nine years old boys at first asked for the case to be tried by a jury, because he said the Chairman had stated that another boy of his ought to be birched. Subsequently, however, the father agreed to the Magistrates dealing with the case. The Chief Constable said that all the boys, when questioned by D.C. Dolphin, admitted the offences. Mr. Law said it seemed to him that the trouble was that the boys ran wild at night, and were not properly looked after by their parents. The Chairman said that the defendants had caused a lot of trouble. One of the boys, who was already on probation, would be sent away for a month for medical attention, and the others would be put on probation for a year. He warned the parents that the Bench had the power to fine them because they had not looked after their children properly, no matter what they said. They would not be fined, but would have to pay 2s. 6d. each within a month as restitution to the people who had lost goods.
"You know, if you don’t read history, you’re a bloody idiot." - James Clavell

Offline John

  • Editor
  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 25161
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 20:32:51 pm »
Dover Express - Friday 20 April 1923

BOY'S ADVENTURES IN EAST KENT.

Last Tuesday week, a boy, Wyndham Wright, was arrested by the Dover police on a charge of stealing securities, etc., at Herne Bay, valued at £203, the property of Mr. J. Sherwood, of Strode Farm Dairy. The boy was charged at Canterbury the next day, and a very extraordinary story of his doings was told. It was stated that on March 7th he absconded from Redhill Farm School, getting away on one the Sister's bicycles to Croydon. He subsequently reached Maidstone, where he sold the bicycle and went by train to Margate and then to Ramsgate, where he stayed some time before returning to Croydon for six days, when he took £10 from "Parker at Woodside." He bought a suit at Muswell Hill, and went for an eight-days' stay at Folkestone, during which time he visited Boulogne, afterwards spending twelve days at Margate, where in King St. he took a suit, bank book and motor licence. He then went to Herne Bay, took lodgings on the Front, and then stole the box, not knowing its contents. He then went to Folkestone, and was finally caught at Dover on Tuesday.
"You know, if you don’t read history, you’re a bloody idiot." - James Clavell

Offline Man of Kent1

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 2098
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 22:30:26 pm »
Got to give the little villain full marks for resourcefulness!

Offline alkhamhills

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 9617
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 09:20:29 am »
He did well on a few pounds
£10 in1923 was worth in 2011--take your choice of comparisons. I like the historic "opportunity"--he was certainly an opportunist

historic opportunity cost of that project is £494.20
 labour cost of that project is £1,723.00
 economic cost of that project is £3,544.00

Offline Man of Kent1

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 2098
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 17:23:36 pm »
There is a very comprensive history of the 'Redhill Farm School' on here:
www.redhill-reigate-history.co.uk/philanth.htm

Offline John

  • Editor
  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 25161
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2014, 08:41:41 am »
Sussex Express - Friday 29 October 1915

BIRCHED AGAIN.

UNCONTROLLABLE SEAFORD BOYS.

 
Three Seaford boys named Arthur Hall, Norman Lowless and Daniel Shed were charged, in the Children's Court at Lewes on Tuesday, with breaking and entering Finland Palace, Seaford, and stealing a metal watch, 18 cakes of chocolates, 50 packets of cigarettes, and six watch cases, the property of Henry Black, on October 8th.

George H Mussell, of West View, Seaford, another schoolboy, spoke to seeing the defendants leave the Palace with bulky pockets, and P.C. Goodson stated that when he saw them two days later they admitted being concerned in the affair, that they got into the place by breaking a window, and sold some of the things to soldiers. All now pleaded guilty, and Mrs. Hall said her boy had not been as good as he should have been on account of being up before, when he was birched. His father had been away at the Front ever since. He was now beyond her control. The father of Lowles alleged that Hall was the ringleader, and that he led other boys away.

Superintendent Vine thought Hall was previously put under probation for being connected with three or four charges of thefts. The father and the uncle of Shed, the latter saying he was Councillor Deighton, of Brighton, asked the Magistrates to be lenient with the boy, but the Magistrates — Mr. F. B. Whitfeld and Alderman G. Hodman — ordered each defendant to receive six strokes the birch, and Mr. Whitfeld said that if they could have given Hall a dozen strokes they would, but they could not.
"You know, if you don’t read history, you’re a bloody idiot." - James Clavell

Offline jimtdi

  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 20
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2014, 13:19:09 pm »
'Finland Palace' sounds very grand, any idea what/where it was? Sounds like a Hotel name to me, or a shop?
Sussex Military History society member

Offline Pete

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 4919
  • We Wunt Be Druv
    • Bishopstone Tide Mills
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2014, 14:10:13 pm »
Couldn't find it in the street directories  either as Finland or Palace
Sussex Bonfire - a way of life, not just for Nov 5th

Offline John

  • Editor
  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 25161
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2014, 14:12:41 pm »
I'm surprised an uncontrollable Seaford boy such as yourself couldn't find anything, Pete  ;D
"You know, if you don’t read history, you’re a bloody idiot." - James Clavell

Offline Pete

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 4919
  • We Wunt Be Druv
    • Bishopstone Tide Mills
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 15:27:50 pm »
 ;D

my only thought was if it was one of the cinemas
Sussex Bonfire - a way of life, not just for Nov 5th

Offline alkhamhills

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 9617
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2014, 19:47:36 pm »
Norman Lowless

Born about 1903 Seaford. Parents Arthur William and Margaret.
In 1911 at 19 Blatchinigton Rd, Seaford with parents and 7 siblings. Father a Fishmonger and Poulterer Assistant.
He married Laura Taylor in 1929, and died 1965.
Believe surname spelt Lowles.

Daniel Shed
This could be David Charles Shed(there is no Daniel born 1900/1905 Sussex)
Born about 1903, Seaford. Parents  Charles Alfred and Jessie Agnes
In 1911 at 5 West View, Seaford. Father a Coachman.
Believe he married Nellie Crooks. He died 1984

Believe the above is correct(but ????!!!)

Cannot find Arthur Hall with any degree of certainty

Offline John

  • Editor
  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 25161
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2018, 19:54:01 pm »
Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser - Saturday 02 May 1863

CAUTION TO DONKEY RIDERS.

Luke Ballard, a little boy about ten years of age from whose eyes tears trickled down his cheeks as he entered the bar, was charged with driving a donkey furiously along the back road of Charlton. The case excited a little merriment owing to the nature of the charge against a defendant of such tender age; and Mr. W. Knocker, (who appeared in support of the information), acknowledged that he thought the charge was against a man, and very quickly acquitted himself of his duties.

Police-Constable Jones stated that in the afternoon of the 19th inst., he saw the defendant with a number of other boys, mounted on the backs of donkeys, galloping down the road at such a furious rate, that they nearly threw a little girl in the river.

The Mayor said the policeman had done very right in bringing the boy before them, and had he been a little older he would not have escaped unpunished, but as it was, he would be discharged.
"You know, if you don’t read history, you’re a bloody idiot." - James Clavell

Offline Pete

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 4919
  • We Wunt Be Druv
    • Bishopstone Tide Mills
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2018, 16:34:16 pm »
WINDOW-SMASHING HUMOUR
I only did it for fun," laughingly explained William Smith when charged at the Guildhall yesterday with smashing a window worth  £20. As his idea of enjoyment had led him to similar excesses at Portsmouth, Chichester, St. Albans, and Romsey, he was remanded for medical inquiry.

Evening Express
18/3/1908
Sussex Bonfire - a way of life, not just for Nov 5th

Offline Pete

  • Prolific Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 4919
  • We Wunt Be Druv
    • Bishopstone Tide Mills
Re: Boys will be boys..
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2018, 11:14:22 am »
Minnie Champion, a seventeen-year-old servant girl, employed at a house in Romsey-road, Winchester, has a decided vein of humour which is wasted in her prosaic life. On Sunday night, as a chauffeur was passing the house where Minnie was engaged, he heard frantic screaming coming from within. Finding the front door ajar he entered, and found Minnie lying on the floor of the hall, her hands being tied with string. Hysterically she told a tale of two men who had burst into the house, and, the family being at church, seized her and tied her to the banisters, stuffing her mouth with rags and paper. In the dining-room was a bag partly filled with silver plate and other valuables, while on the floor near an open French window was a gold watch, and in the kitchen two smashed beer bottles. Finally, Minnie's sense of humour gave her away, and she confessed to arranging the sensation herself, getting a little boy in the house to tie her up. The authorities considered that her humour was a little too keen, and she has been removed to a home.

Weekly Mail 11/2/1905
Sussex Bonfire - a way of life, not just for Nov 5th