Bungalow Town, Shoreham

[John]

A couple of pictures of Bungalow Town at Shoreham..

[Pete]

The home of British Cinema. A lot of the houses there were built from rail carriages from Lancing works, A few still existing and clearly identifiable. In fact one has had the cladding stripped back to expose all the mahogany doors and brass fittings

[pomme homme]

I remember seeing a photograph of a former railway carriage, sans wheels, being hauled through the Adur, at low tide, on a wagon drawn either by horses or oxen. I'll hunt for it and post it if I find it.

[Pete]

I think they used to take them across the Shinewater lagoon (think that's the name) rather than the harbour 'cos of the mud

[daveSea]

Pomme, This one? Photo taken in 1905
 

[pomme homme]

I think that's the one, John. But to be honest, I haven't yet got round to doing what I said that I would in my earlier post!

I've never heard of the Shinewater lagoon, Pete. Maybe you're thinking of the Widewater lagoon. I know that well because it used to be at the bottom of my garden (oh, and to clarify - it's me, rather than the lagoon, that has moved). However if it is Widewater, that's in Lancing and so well to the west of Shoreham. Anyhow, I can't imagine why anyone would want to go through Widewater when there's a dry footed route to Bungalow Town (aka Shoreham Beach) between the eastern end of Widewater and the Adur.

[daveSea]

I think that picture was taken just east of the footbridge - very close to the Sussex Yacht Club
The houses in the background are still there.  

[Pete]

II've never heard of the Shinewater lagoon, Pete. Maybe you're thinking of the Widewater lagoon.  However if it is Widewater, that's in Lancing and so well to the west of Shoreham. Anyhow, I can't imagine why anyone would want to go through Widewater when there's a dry footed route to Bungalow Town (aka Shoreham Beach) between the eastern end of Widewater and the Adur.

Doh, Widewater yes, think Shinewater is Eastbourne. As you say strange to cross water either the lagoon or the harbour when there is the beach link unless that is only recent silting.(I'll have a look at Old Maps) That area used to belong to (I think) the Duke of Norfolk and was leasehold until recently, certainly was when we moved to Sussex in 1987 and were looking to find somewhere in that area.

[Pete]

Browsed Old Maps, in 1875 the lagoon came much further East than now however there was no road or path from the beach back to the road as now. The obvious place for the photo is where the drawbridge is now but the was marked as "ferry hard" so presumably fordable at low tide, this ran to what now looks to be ferry road which ran straight to the CG station on the beach

[pomme homme]

Browsed Old Maps, in 1875 the lagoon came much further East

In order to illustrate how much further east Widewater came in 1875, could you please post an image of the map, Pete?

The obvious place for the photo is where the drawbridge is now

Is that where the Lady Jane public house is on the seaward side of the Adur?

[pomme homme]

Having looked at the 'likely suspect' books, I can't find the image, that earlier I had in mind, of the railway carriage on a cart, being pulled through the Adur by horses. However the likelihood is that it was that which you posted, John. But it seems that not only railway carriages were transported in that fashion. In Sussex of One Hundred Years Ago (Aylwin Guilnant) there is the following image of the Shoreham Lifeboat travelling in a similar manner. Presumably it predates the construction of the original lifeboat house and slipway next to the lighthouse at the confluence between the Adur and the Southwick Canal.  

[daveSea]

Here is the image I posted with the houses that are still there ringed

And this is the link to Google Maps Streetview showing the same houses
Shoreham
This is just east of the current footbridge and below is a copy of a 1930s map showing a road leading across the mud(?) to the low water mark

[Pete]

OOps I was wrong about the Lagoon, it looks about the same as now although there is a v small amount of water behind a bank. 1875 map showing ferryhard across the harbour & route to CG station. This runs to the Lady Jane which I think was the Ferry or Ferryman for a while or is that the mainland end? The Hard is still visible on aerial photos at the South end, other end is built over as Marine etc

[Pete]

Map v AP  Hard marked in green, bridge visible in photo

[pomme homme]

Oops also. I'm just serving myself a large slice of humble pie for having thanked John - twice - for the photo which you posted, Dave. Please accept my apologies.