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« on: April 22, 2012, 19:04:53 PM »

How Sussex Shepherds counted to 20...

One-erum
Two-erum
Cock-erum
Shoe-erum
Sith-erum
Sath-erum
Winebury
Wagtail
Tarrydiddle
Den

OK so thats just 10 - but they used to count the sheep past in twos!
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 09:23:36 AM »

How did they manage if they stuttered?  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 09:48:02 AM »

There was an article in Bygone Kent years ago about the way Kent shepherds counted. They started yan, tan, tethera, pethera, pimp, but I can't recall it beyond that.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 10:03:25 AM »

Just imagine the fun when a Kent shepherd bumped into his Sussex counterpart  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 10:30:33 AM »

......and even more fun when a Sussex shepherd tried to buy a number of sheep from a Kent shepherd or vice versa!

"I wants shoe-erum"
"Sorry, I've only got pethera for sale"
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 11:12:54 AM »

I can't find that Bygone Kent but I Googled "yan tan tethera" and came up with several hits, and most sources seem to agree that it has a Yorkshire/Cumbrian origin.
One source gives one to ten as yan, tan, tethera, pethera, pimp, sethera, lethera, hovera, dovera, dick. The only sources that go beyond that give all sorts of regional variations but all are something like yanadick, tanadick, tetheradick, petheradick, bumpit, yanabumpit, tanabumpit, tetherabumpit, petherabumpit, jiggit. At which point the shepherd would pick up a handy stone, drop it in his pocket, and start again at yan.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 11:54:55 AM »

This is reminicent of th Yingtong Song  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 11:21:37 AM »

yanadick, tanadick, tetheradick, petheradick, bumpit, yanabumpit, tanabumpit, tetherabumpit, petherabumpit, jiggit.

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This is reminicent of the Yingtong Song

No it isn't. I've tried it to the music. It doesn't scan!
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2017, 18:53:28 PM »

Bexhill-on-Sea Observer - Saturday 04 May 1935

Counting Sheep.
The method of counting sheep in the olden days is the subject of an interesting article by Mr. James White in the May number of the "Sussex County Magazine" (which is an excellent issue). The shepherds never used ordinary figures, but enumerated the sheep by saying:

Wintherum, wontherum, twintherum, twontherum, wagtail, whitebelly, corum, dar, diddle, den, etherum, atherum, shootherum, cootherum, windbar, bobtail, inadik, dyadik, bumpit, ecack—tally.

This counted 20 sheep. At the word "tally" one finger of the left hand was raised and the whole of the list was repeated. On reaching the end a second finger was raised. When all the fingers and the thumb of the left hand had been brought into action that accounted for 100 sheep, which had passed under the crock. The right hand provided tally for the second hundred.
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